New Telegraph Poles

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Diameter Length Treatment Unit Price (+vat) Quantity
Diameter: Light Length: 6000 Treatment: Choice £190.00 - +
Diameter: Light Length: 7000 Treatment: Choice £218.00 - +
Diameter: Light Length: 8000 Treatment: Choice £258.00 - +
Diameter: Light Length: 9000 Treatment: Choice £279.00 - +
Diameter: Light Length: 10000 Treatment: Choice £329.00 - +
Diameter: Light Length: 11000 Treatment: Choice £365.00 - +
Diameter: Light Length: 13000 Treatment: Choice £436.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 8000 Treatment: Choice £298.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 9000 Treatment: Choice £356.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 10000 Treatment: Choice £398.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 11000 Treatment: Choice £455.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 12000 Treatment: Choice £498.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 13000 Treatment: Choice £572.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 14000 Treatment: Choice £677.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 15000 Treatment: Creosote £795.00 - +
Diameter: Medium Length: 16000 Treatment: Creosote £898.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 9000 Treatment: Choice £468.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 10000 Treatment: Choice £580.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 11000 Treatment: Choice £671.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 12000 Treatment: Choice £764.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 13000 Treatment: Choice £890.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 14000 Treatment: Choice £991.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 15000 Treatment: Creosote £1,232.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 16000 Treatment: Creosote £1,368.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 17000 Treatment: Creosote £1,497.00 - +
Diameter: Stout Length: 18000 Treatment: Creosote £1,802.00 - +

Overview

The widespread use of new wooden telegraph poles

Telegraph poles often double up as a notice board for the local community! Railwaysleepers.comNew telegraph poles used as play area for orangutans at Chester Zoo. Railwaysleepers.comWooden telegraph poles are part of the fabric of British scenery, and can be seen in most villages and towns throughout the UK. Over the last hundred years they have supported a spider web of overhead telephone lines and power cables that span across our countryside. Doubling up as notice boards, there are thousands of lost dog signs, village fete posters and council proclamations conveniently pinned to their bases. Due to their versatility, wooden telegraph poles are increasingly appearing in construction, landscaping and leisure projects:
~ roof supports ~ bridges & walkways ~ architectural columns ~ edging & retaining ~ river embankments  ~ marinas & moorings ~ platforms & decking ~ gate posts & fencing ~ adventure play areas ~ forest walkways ~ treehouses ~ boat masts ~ shade sails ~ pole barns etc.. The list is endless!

General information about our new telegraph poles

TYPE OF WOOD. Normally our telegraph poles are made from Redwood or Scots Pine (Pinus Sylvestris). All of our poles are from trees harvested from sustainably managed forests. 

BRITISH STANDARD. All our Telegraph poles adher to BS 1990: Part 1, 1984, Wood poles for overhead power and telecommunication lines, Part 1. Specification for softwood poles.
Published Date: 28/09/1984

FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. After harvesting, the bark is taken off our telegraph poles and they are graded into sizes (light, medium and stout) and stacked for seasoning. Telegraph poles are dried naturally by air. This process begins when first harvested and continues once they have been shipped to the UK, where they are moisture tested again and laid out for further seasoning. They are left for up to twelve months to complete the natural drying process. During this time telegraph poles are consistently moisture tested, and are not pressure treated until their moisture content is below 28%.

DRESSING. In order to provide a smooth surface to all the telegraph poles, they are dressed - peeling the outer cambium layer with an automatic dressing machine.

TREATMENT. Your telegraph poles can be treated with one of two treatments:
1) AC500 Treatment is a non-creosote, environmentally friendly, water based pressure treatment similar to Tanalith E treatment. AC500 treated telegraph poles can be used for standard telegraph pole purposes, and in addition CAN be used for children's play areas, tree houses, inside houses etc.. where creosote treated telegraph poles cannot be used, due to recent creosote legislation. AC500 treated telegraph poles do not emit anything in the heat of the summer, whereas creosote treated telegraph poles may bleed or leak sticky creosote when it's hot, with nothing you can do to prevent it. AC500 treated telegraph poles are sometimes used by local authorities who have an environmental policy against creosote.

2) Creosote Treatment gives your timber telegraph pole the longest life span possible and protection from harsh conditions. Pressure treated creosoted telegraph poles provide a minimum desired service life of thirty years, but may last considerably longer. Indeed there are numerous examples of telegraph poles in service which are over 100 years old! Creosote has been used for over 150 years to preserve and increase the life-span of timber. Recent findings have indicated that creosote can be harmful in certain situations, so, be careful. Handle with gloves. Wear a dust mask when sawing or machining. Dispose of off-cuts, sawdust etc.. safely. Waste wood may be disposed of by burning, subject to any local rules on burning creosoted material in the open, or via your local waste disposal facility. Creosoted timber should not be used where there is risk of frequent (i.e. often-occurring or constant) skin contact, nor where it may come into contact with or contaminate animal or human foodstuffs. In particular it should not be used inside buildings, in playgrounds, or for garden furniture and picnic tables. For further information on creosote visit WOOD TREATMENTS

FIXING IN GROUND. Timber telegraph poles can be placed directly into the ground, and generally do not require concrete foundations or collars to prevent deterioration. Typically, a 9m pole will be inserted between 1 - 2 metres into the ground, depending on ground conditions.

CUTTING. You can cut telegraph poles to size with a chainsaw, circular saw or even a handsaw if you are feeling energetic!

SIZE, DIAMETER etc... Telegraph poles vary in length, weight, diameter and taper. Not only is every pole different in dimensions from each other (like each tree) but also they are tapered along the length. So the diameter of a new telegraph pole will vary from top to bottom. In addition the very end of the pole (the original base of the tree) can broaden out even more. So, if you are looking for absolute regularity and identical telegraph poles, forget it! We classify new telegraph poles into broadly 3 diameter ranges - 'Light' , 'medium' and 'stout'. The following table has the diameter ranges of some of our most common sizes. For further information on weight and strength specifications, see the larger table AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE
Telegraph pole diameter dimensions sheet. Railwaysleepers.comWhat is the difference between a telegraph pole and a landscaping pole?

The most obvious one, is that a telegraph pole is generally tapered, longer in length, wider in diameter & with a choice of treatments. In contrast, a landscaping pole is untapered, with a maximum length of 6.0m, and has a choice of diameter from 50mm - 200mm. See Landscaping Poles sizes and prices. So, if you are looking for height, strength & longevity, then telegraph poles would be best, whereas landscaping poles would win where you seek regularity, identical dimensions & shorter lengths.

Are you a lover of wooden telegraph poles? 

YES! There is a genuine Telegraph Pole Appreciation Society that has featured our website, and is a wonderful blend of information and eccentricity, including 'Telegraph pole of the month'. Pay them a visit! http://www.telegraphpoleappreciationsociety.org. There are some wonderful features and photos including a superb technical article about the telegraph pole, written by the Institution of Post Office Electrical Engineers in 1930.

In a recent trecking adventure we came across Hamelin Pool Telegraph Station (1884) near Shark Bay in Western Australia that shared a similar sense of telegraph pole fanaticism, eccentricity and nudity! SEE PROJECT LINKWe recently sent details off to Martin, who is a High Priest or Archbishop of the telegraph pole world, and who replied:

I can’t believe how long it’s taken me to get this post up on to the website. Jerry Deacon, who sent this to me, can’t believe how long it’s taken either. And Jerry, I’ve just realised is none other than (previously plugged on here) Kilgraney Railway Sleepers (now railwaysleepers.com) – the place to go for old railway sleepers (the clue is in the name) but also old and new telegraph poles for ornamental and nerdic use.  Nice plug for you there Jerry; I trust that this is adequate recompense for my tardiness.

Anyway, back in March. Jerry wrote to tell us that as an intrepid explorer he came across Hamelin Pool Telegraph Station (1884) near Shark Bay in Western Australia. There is a definite passion for telegraph poles in Oz. In October 1872 the Overland Telegraph line between Darwin and Adelaide was completed, and the Australian telegraph network became linked directly to Europe (termite attacks notwithstanding). Hamelin station was established as a repeater station that linked Western Australia into this same network. And this is the last of these stations still extant. Now, for some reason, it features, quite prominently, a nude linesman attending to the pole top apparatus. Why this should be is anyone’s guess and Jerry offers no explanation, nor does anything at the station itself. Though he did suggest 'Nude Pole of the Month' as a possible new feature for these very pages, I’m going to pretend he never said that.
Martin Evans,
Membership no. 0001

www.telegraphpoleappreciationsociety.org

Telegraph poles & the expression 'Heard it On the grapevine'

Telegraph poles and grapevines

An answer to the burning question as to how "grape-vine" came to be used figuratively to mean "an informal person-to-person means of circulating information or gossip"

This originates in the USA. In the early days of telegraphy, companies rushed to put up telegraph poles, some made none too well and some actually using trees rather than poles. To some, the tangled wires resembled the wild vines found in California, hence a Grapevine. During the US Civil War the telegraph was used extensively, but the messages were sometime unreliable, hence the association of rumour on the grapevine. The phrase first appeared in print in 1852.

Another reference states:. “…grapevines were associated with telegraph lines somewhere along the line, for by the time of the Civil war a report by ‘grapevine telegraph’ was common slang for a rumor. The idea behind the expression is probably not rumors sent over real telegraph lines, but the telegraphic speed with which rumor mongers can transmit canards with their own rude mouth-to-mouth telegraph system.”

From the “Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins” by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).

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TELEGRAPH POLE SPECIFICATIONS (VOLUME, SIZE, WEIGHT & STRENGTH) 

SPECIFICATIONS  of  LIGHT  DIAMETER  TELEGRAPH POLES

Length (metres)

BASE min diameter (mm) 1.5m from Butt

TOP min diameter (mm)

Gefle Cu
   Ft

Caliper Cu M3

Creo weight (Kilo)

Ultimate load @0.6m from top of pole (kN)

Load per mm deflection at point of application of load(N)

6

150

125

3.0

0.1099

76

4.39

9.3

7

160

125

4.0

0.1288

108

4.31

6.0

8

170

125

5.0

0.1985

126

4.4

4.8

 

             

9

180

125

6.0

0.2251

168

4.46

3.6

 

             

10

185

125

7.25

0.2699

190

4.25

2.8

 

             

11

195

125

8.5

0.3200

230

4.4

2.3

 

             

12

200

125

9.5

0.3922

272

4.26

1.7

13

210

130

10.5

0.4366

288

4.46

1.6

SPECIFICATIONS of MEDIUM  DIAMETER  TELEGRAPH  POLES

Length (metres)

BASE min diameter (mm) 1.5m from Butt 

Top min diameter (mm)

Gefle Cu    
  Ft

Caliper Cu M3

Creo weight (Kilo)

Ultimate load @0.6m from top of pole (kN)

Load per mm deflection at point of application of load (N)

8

215

150

8.0

0.2919

203

8.2

9.1

9

220

150

9.0

0.3149

217

8.15

7.8

 

             

10

230

150

10.5

0.3599

254

8.15

6.4

 

             

11

240

150

12.50

0.4298

293

8.18

5.0

 

             

12

250

150

15.5

0.4899

345

8.23

4.1

13

260

160

17.00

0.5760

376

8.46

3.7

14

275

160

21.00

0.6434

432

8.98

3.3

15

290

165

24.00

0.7651

532

9.6

3.3

16

305

170

26.50

0.8688

591

10.23

3.1

17

320

180

30.00

0.9951

676

11.07

3.0

18

330

180

35.00

1.1482

771

11.14

2.7

20

360

180

46.00

1.3787

954

11.98

2.5

22

380

180

54.00

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12.63

2.3

SPECIFICATIONS  of  STOUT  DIAMETER  TELEGRAPH  POLES

Length (metres)

BASE min diameter (mm) 1.5m from Butt

Top min diameter (mm)

Gefle Cu  
  Ft

Caliper Cu M3

Creo weight (Kilo)

Ultimate load @0.6m from top of pole (kN)

Load per mm deflection at point of application of load (N)

 

             

9

275

190

13.00

0.4630

319

15.91

19.2

 

             

10

285

190

16.00

0.5502

378

15.52

15.5

 

             

11

295

190

19.00

0.6533

443

15.24

11.8

 

             

12

305

190

22.00

0.7428

515

15.08

9.4

13

320

195

25.00

0.8280

571

15.73

8.3

14

335

195

28.00

0.9485

633

16.24

7.3

15

350

195

33.00

1.0565

734

16.68

6.8

16

365

200

36.00

1.1737

788

17.35

6.2

17

375

200

40.00

1.3167

843

17.20

5.4

18

390

200

47.00

1.5362

1120

17.51

5.0

20

415

200

60.00

1.8516

1260

17.74

4.2

22

435

200

72.00

2.0388

1419

17.49

3.6

24

470

200

89.00

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18.36

3.3

The strength properties stated here are based on using unstayed poles (Cantilevers)

 

 

Extra Info

TELEGRAPH POLES ARE DELIVERY BY AN ARTIC LORRY WITH CRANE OFFLOAD

Our specialist telegraph pole lorries can offload themselves with a hiab crane. Your order can be crane-offloaded so long as there is space for the artic crane to operate without lifting over vehicles etc..You must ensure in advance that there is sufficient access space for the lorry to approach, manoevre and park. We will send you an artic access questionnaire, with all the required access space dimensions, to fill in before the delivery.